Cheapest time to visit Pattaya
As of Oct 2026, Pattaya barely moves. Across the next 11 months the median runs $53 to $58 a night — a 10% spread. Shifting your dates here is not worth much; pick on price and location instead.
November median: $53 per night across 121 tracked hotels. Measured one-night stays for two adults.
December median: $58 per night across 119 tracked hotels. Measured one-night stays for two adults.
January median: $56 per night across 120 tracked hotels. Measured one-night stays for two adults.
February median: $56 per night across 114 tracked hotels. Measured one-night stays for two adults.
March median: $55 per night across 107 tracked hotels. Measured one-night stays for two adults.
April median: $57 per night across 101 tracked hotels. Measured one-night stays for two adults.
May median: $56 per night across 94 tracked hotels. Measured one-night stays for two adults.
June median: $55 per night across 92 tracked hotels. Measured one-night stays for two adults.
July median: $57 per night across 90 tracked hotels. Measured one-night stays for two adults.
August median: $58 per night across 88 tracked hotels. Measured one-night stays for two adults.
September median: $58 per night across 86 tracked hotels. Measured one-night stays for two adults.
Next 11 months · 8,104 prices · all prices in USD
The year ahead
median USD per night · one-night stays for two adultsNear averageYear average $56/night
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Cheapest Pattaya hotels
sorted by price — in a city this flat, timing is not the leverNovember 2026121 hotels · median $53/night
$26 or less$202 or more
About these prices
Recorded nightly prices across 121 Pattaya hotels in November. Taller bars mean more price checks in that range, not more unique hotels. The highlighted range contains the median of $53 per night.
November: 121 hotels, median $53 a night, from 788 prices.
December 2026119 hotels · median $58/night
$26 or less$202 or more
About these prices
Recorded nightly prices across 119 Pattaya hotels in December. Taller bars mean more price checks in that range, not more unique hotels. The highlighted range contains the median of $58 per night.
December: 119 hotels, median $58 a night, from 845 prices.
January 2027120 hotels · median $56/night
$26 or less$202 or more
About these prices
Recorded nightly prices across 120 Pattaya hotels in January. Taller bars mean more price checks in that range, not more unique hotels. The highlighted range contains the median of $56 per night.
January: 120 hotels, median $56 a night, from 895 prices.
February 2027114 hotels · median $56/night
$26 or less$202 or more
About these prices
Recorded nightly prices across 114 Pattaya hotels in February. Taller bars mean more price checks in that range, not more unique hotels. The highlighted range contains the median of $56 per night.
February: 114 hotels, median $56 a night, from 762 prices.
March 2027107 hotels · median $55/night
$26 or less$202 or more
About these prices
Recorded nightly prices across 107 Pattaya hotels in March. Taller bars mean more price checks in that range, not more unique hotels. The highlighted range contains the median of $55 per night.
March: 107 hotels, median $55 a night, from 822 prices.
April 2027101 hotels · median $57/night
$26 or less$202 or more
About these prices
Recorded nightly prices across 101 Pattaya hotels in April. Taller bars mean more price checks in that range, not more unique hotels. The highlighted range contains the median of $57 per night.
April: 101 hotels, median $57 a night, from 673 prices.
May 202794 hotels · median $56/night
$26 or less$202 or more
About these prices
Recorded nightly prices across 94 Pattaya hotels in May. Taller bars mean more price checks in that range, not more unique hotels. The highlighted range contains the median of $56 per night.
May: 94 hotels, median $56 a night, from 725 prices.
June 202792 hotels · median $55/night
$26 or less$202 or more
About these prices
Recorded nightly prices across 92 Pattaya hotels in June. Taller bars mean more price checks in that range, not more unique hotels. The highlighted range contains the median of $55 per night.
June: 92 hotels, median $55 a night, from 625 prices.
July 202790 hotels · median $57/night
$26 or less$202 or more
About these prices
Recorded nightly prices across 90 Pattaya hotels in July. Taller bars mean more price checks in that range, not more unique hotels. The highlighted range contains the median of $57 per night.
July: 90 hotels, median $57 a night, from 699 prices.
August 202788 hotels · median $58/night
$26 or less$202 or more
About these prices
Recorded nightly prices across 88 Pattaya hotels in August. Taller bars mean more price checks in that range, not more unique hotels. The highlighted range contains the median of $58 per night.
August: 88 hotels, median $58 a night, from 688 prices.
September 202786 hotels · median $58/night
$26 or less$202 or more
About these prices
Recorded nightly prices across 86 Pattaya hotels in September. Taller bars mean more price checks in that range, not more unique hotels. The highlighted range contains the median of $58 per night.
September: 86 hotels, median $58 a night, from 582 prices.
We are not ranking these by discount. Pattaya’s whole year moves 10%, so the gap between a hotel’s best and worst month is too small to change where you stay.
12 hotels match in this shortlist.
Navin Mansion 2
PJ Inn Pattaya
LEK Jomtien Hotel
The Holiday Resort Pattaya
B2 Jomtien Pattaya Boutique & Budget Hotel
B2 Hotel South Pattaya Premier Hotel
Dancenter Luxury Underwater World Pattaya
Boutique City And Bravo Hotel Pattaya
FX Hotel Pattaya
Punyapha Place Pattaya Beach
Marble Garden View Pattaya
Diamond City Place
The Zign Premium Villa
Amethyst Hotel Pattaya
Cross Pattaya Pratamnak
One Patio Hotel Pattaya
Hard Rock Hotel Pattaya
Bella Villa Prima
Grande Centre Point Space Pattaya
Royal Cliff Grand Hotel Pattaya
Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya
La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World
The Monttra Pattaya
Veranda Residence Pattaya Pool Villa
12 hotels match in this shortlist.
- Navin Mansion 2
- LEK Jomtien Hotel
- FX Hotel Pattaya
Hillside Resort Pattaya
Z by Zing- Boutique City And Bravo Hotel Pattaya
5ive Beach House Hotel- The Holiday Resort Pattaya
P72 Hotel
The Red Balcony Inn
Mountain Beach Resort- Marble Garden View Pattaya
- Bella Villa Prima
- The Zign Premium Villa
- Amethyst Hotel Pattaya
Akara Hotel Pattaya
Welcome World Beachfront Resort- One Patio Hotel Pattaya
- Royal Cliff Grand Hotel Pattaya
- Grande Centre Point Space Pattaya
- The Monttra Pattaya
- La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World
- Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya
No hotels in this Pattaya shortlist are in the $400+ range in December. Closest to your budget: $200–400.
12 hotels match in this shortlist.
- Navin Mansion 2
- The Holiday Resort Pattaya
- B2 Jomtien Pattaya Boutique & Budget Hotel
- LEK Jomtien Hotel
Bella Villa Pattaya 3rd Road- Boutique City And Bravo Hotel Pattaya
- FX Hotel Pattaya
- Z by Zing
- Dancenter Luxury Underwater World Pattaya
- Hillside Resort Pattaya
- B2 Hotel South Pattaya Premier Hotel
- Marble Garden View Pattaya
LK The Empress Pattaya- The Zign Premium Villa
- Amethyst Hotel Pattaya
- Akara Hotel Pattaya
- Cross Pattaya Pratamnak
- One Patio Hotel Pattaya
- Royal Cliff Grand Hotel Pattaya
- Grande Centre Point Space Pattaya
- La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World
- The Monttra Pattaya
- Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya
No hotels in this Pattaya shortlist are in the $400+ range in January. Closest to your budget: $200–400.
12 hotels match in this shortlist.
- Navin Mansion 2
- Bella Villa Pattaya 3rd Road
- FX Hotel Pattaya
- Hillside Resort Pattaya
- B2 Jomtien Pattaya Boutique & Budget Hotel
- LEK Jomtien Hotel
- Boutique City And Bravo Hotel Pattaya
- Z by Zing
- Marble Garden View Pattaya
- Dancenter Luxury Underwater World Pattaya
- B2 Hotel South Pattaya Premier Hotel
- Diamond City Place
- LK The Empress Pattaya
- The Zign Premium Villa
Altera Hotel and Residence- Akara Hotel Pattaya
- Amethyst Hotel Pattaya
Viewtalay6 by Pat 42- Royal Cliff Grand Hotel Pattaya
- Grande Centre Point Space Pattaya
- La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World
- The Monttra Pattaya
- Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya
No hotels in this Pattaya shortlist are in the $400+ range in February. Closest to your budget: $200–400.
12 hotels match in this shortlist.
- Navin Mansion 2
- Bella Villa Pattaya 3rd Road
- FX Hotel Pattaya
- Dancenter Luxury Underwater World Pattaya
- Hillside Resort Pattaya
- B2 Jomtien Pattaya Boutique & Budget Hotel
Copa Hotel- Boutique City And Bravo Hotel Pattaya
- Z by Zing
- Diamond City Place
- Marble Garden View Pattaya
- The Red Balcony Inn
- Welcome World Beachfront Resort
- The Zign Premium Villa
- Akara Hotel Pattaya
- Amethyst Hotel Pattaya
Arbour Hotel And Residence Pattaya- One Patio Hotel Pattaya
- Royal Cliff Grand Hotel Pattaya
- La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World
- Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya
- The Monttra Pattaya
No hotels in this Pattaya shortlist are in the $400+ range in March. Closest to your budget: $200–400.
12 hotels match in this shortlist.
- FX Hotel Pattaya
- Dancenter Luxury Underwater World Pattaya
D at Sea Hotel- Hillside Resort Pattaya
Zip Lounge & Apartments- Copa Hotel
- Z by Zing
- Boutique City And Bravo Hotel Pattaya
- Marble Garden View Pattaya
- Diamond City Place
The Right Resort- Bella Villa Pattaya 3rd Road
- One Patio Hotel Pattaya
Hotel Baraquda Pattaya By Heeton- LK The Empress Pattaya
- Altera Hotel and Residence
Woodlands Hotel & Resort- Akara Hotel Pattaya
- Grande Centre Point Space Pattaya
- Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya
- La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World
No hotels in this Pattaya shortlist are in the $400+ range in April. Closest to your budget: $200–400.
12 hotels match in this shortlist.
- FX Hotel Pattaya
- D at Sea Hotel
- Hillside Resort Pattaya
- Copa Hotel
- Z by Zing
- Dancenter Luxury Underwater World Pattaya
- Marble Garden View Pattaya
- Diamond City Place
- The Right Resort
- Bella Villa Pattaya 3rd Road
Romeo Palace
Katesiree House- One Patio Hotel Pattaya
- Arbour Hotel And Residence Pattaya
- Hotel Baraquda Pattaya By Heeton
- Hard Rock Hotel Pattaya
- Amethyst Hotel Pattaya
Cloudotel Walking Street- Grande Centre Point Space Pattaya
- Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya
- La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World
No hotels in this Pattaya shortlist are in the $400+ range in May. Closest to your budget: $200–400.
12 hotels match in this shortlist.
- Hillside Resort Pattaya
- FX Hotel Pattaya
- D at Sea Hotel
- Z by Zing
- Dancenter Luxury Underwater World Pattaya
- Diamond City Place
- Copa Hotel
- Marble Garden View Pattaya
- The Right Resort
- Romeo Palace
- Bella Villa Pattaya 3rd Road
- Katesiree House
- One Patio Hotel Pattaya
- Hotel Baraquda Pattaya By Heeton
- Arbour Hotel And Residence Pattaya
- Woodlands Hotel & Resort
- Hard Rock Hotel Pattaya
- Amethyst Hotel Pattaya
- Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya
- La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World
No hotels in this Pattaya shortlist are in the $400+ range in June. Closest to your budget: $200–400.
12 hotels match in this shortlist.
- FX Hotel Pattaya
- Hillside Resort Pattaya
- D at Sea Hotel
- Dancenter Luxury Underwater World Pattaya
- Z by Zing
- Diamond City Place
- Copa Hotel
- Marble Garden View Pattaya
- The Right Resort
- Romeo Palace
- Bella Villa Pattaya 3rd Road
- Mountain Beach Resort
- One Patio Hotel Pattaya
- Altera Hotel and Residence
- Arbour Hotel And Residence Pattaya
- Hotel Baraquda Pattaya By Heeton
- Woodlands Hotel & Resort
- Amethyst Hotel Pattaya
Rabbit Resort Pattaya- La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World
- Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya
- Grande Centre Point Space Pattaya
No hotels in this Pattaya shortlist are in the $400+ range in July. Closest to your budget: $200–400.
12 hotels match in this shortlist.
- FX Hotel Pattaya
- Hillside Resort Pattaya
- D at Sea Hotel
- Dancenter Luxury Underwater World Pattaya
- Z by Zing
- Copa Hotel
- Marble Garden View Pattaya
- The Right Resort
- Romeo Palace
- Bella Villa Pattaya 3rd Road
- Mountain Beach Resort
Sawasdee Siam, Pattaya- One Patio Hotel Pattaya
- Arbour Hotel And Residence Pattaya
- Hotel Baraquda Pattaya By Heeton
- Altera Hotel and Residence
- Woodlands Hotel & Resort
- Cloudotel Walking Street
- Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya
- La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World
- Grande Centre Point Space Pattaya
No hotels in this Pattaya shortlist are in the $400+ range in August. Closest to your budget: $200–400.
12 hotels match in this shortlist.
- D at Sea Hotel
- FX Hotel Pattaya
- Dancenter Luxury Underwater World Pattaya
- Hillside Resort Pattaya
- Copa Hotel
- Z by Zing
- Punyapha Place Pattaya Beach
- The Right Resort
- Bella Villa Pattaya 3rd Road
- Romeo Palace
- Mountain Beach Resort
- Sawasdee Siam, Pattaya
- One Patio Hotel Pattaya
- Arbour Hotel And Residence Pattaya
Melia Pattaya Hotel- Hotel Baraquda Pattaya By Heeton
- Woodlands Hotel & Resort
- Cross Pattaya Pratamnak
- Rabbit Resort Pattaya
- La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World
- Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya
No hotels in this Pattaya shortlist are in the $400+ range in September. Closest to your budget: $200–400.
Every hotel we track in Pattaya
136 tracked hotels · compare locations and measured pricesChecked rate: one refundable night, 30 days aheadMap all hotels ↑- Navin Mansion 2 · 43 nights measured3★$17
- The Holiday Resort Pattaya · 42 nights measured4★$21
- PJ Inn Pattaya · 28 nights measured3★$22
- T5 Suites at Pattaya · 17 nights measured3★$22
- Dancenter Luxury Underwater World Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$26
- LEK Jomtien Hotel · 39 nights measured3★$26
- 5ive Beach House Hotel · 35 nights measured3★$27
- D at Sea Hotel · 43 nights measured4★$27
- The Red Balcony Inn · 41 nights measured3★$29
- P72 Hotel · 41 nights measured3★$29
- Double D Boutique Residence · 17 nights measured3★$30
- Romeo Palace · 45 nights measured3★$31
- Mountain Beach Resort · 45 nights measured4★$31
- The Scenery City Hotel · 16 nights measured3★$31
- The Right Resort · 43 nights measured3★$33
- Hillside Resort Pattaya · 45 nights measured3★$34
- Katesiree House · 42 nights measured3★$35
- Z by Zing · 44 nights measured3★$36
- Opey De Place · 42 nights measured3★$36
- Dream Hotel Pattaya · 45 nights measured3★$37
- Boutique City And Bravo Hotel Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$37
- Honey Lodge · 43 nights measured3★$40
- Diana Garden Resort & Lodge · 45 nights measured3★$41
- Sawasdee Siam, Pattaya · 45 nights measured3★$41
- Vogue Pattaya Hotel · 41 nights measured4★$41
- LK Royal Wing · 42 nights measured3★$42
- Mike Beach Resort Pattaya - SHA · 42 nights measured3★$42
- Maytara Hotel · 43 nights measured3★$43
- B2 Jomtien Pattaya Boutique & Budget Hotel · 45 nights measured3★$43
- The Tamnan Pattaya Hotel & Resort · 24 nights measured3★$43
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- Marble Garden View Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$44
- Diamond City Place · 44 nights measured3★$44
- Aiyaree Place Hotel · 43 nights measured5★$45
- Sleep With Me Pattaya · 37 nights measured3★$45
- Twin Palms Resort · 43 nights measured3★$45
- Seven Zea Chic Hotel · 17 nights measured3★$46
- Pintree Service Apartment Pattaya · 44 nights measured4★$46
- Ploen Pattaya Residence by Tolani · 7 nights measured3★$47
- Serenotel Pattaya Beach Front · 43 nights measured3★$47
- Villa Thongbura · 45 nights measured3★$47
- Copa Hotel · 45 nights measured3★$48
- The Grass Serviced Suites by At Mind · 43 nights measured4★$49
- Hotel Selection Pattaya · 43 nights measured4★$49
- Centara Nova Hotel Pattaya · 43 nights measured4★$49
- B2 Hotel South Pattaya Premier Hotel · 45 nights measured3★$50
- Atlantis Condo and Water Park Pattaya by the Sea · 44 nights measured3★$51
- JP Villa Hotel · 41 nights measured3★$52
- Centara Life Maris Resort Jomtien · 43 nights measured4★$52
- Unique Regency Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$52
- Harmony Inn · 42 nights measured3★$52
- Nirvana Boutique Hotel · 43 nights measured3★$53
- Tsix5 Hotel · 45 nights measured4★$54
- Flipper Lodge Hotel · 42 nights measured3★$54
- Coco Beach Hotel Jomtien Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$55
- The Seasons Pattaya · 44 nights measured3★$55
- Punyapha Place Pattaya Beach · 41 nights measured3★$56
- Sureena Hotel · 29 nights measured3★$57
- Royal Palace Hotel Pattaya · 43 nights measured3★$58
- Let's Hyde Pattaya Resort & Villas · 44 nights measured4★$60
- Citrus Grande Hotel Pattaya by Compass Hospitality · 45 nights measured5★$61
- Penthouse Pattaya · 45 nights measured3★$63
- Zip Lounge & Apartments · 44 nights measured3★$63
- Le Bali Resort & Spa · 45 nights measured5★$63
- Honey Inn · 44 nights measured3★$66
- Mind Resort Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$68
- FX Hotel Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$68
- Bella Villa Pattaya 3rd Road · 45 nights measured3★$69
- View Talay 6 Condominium by Honey · 17 nights measured3★$70
- Vtsix Condo Service at View Talay Condo · 43 nights measured3★$70
- Signature Pattaya Hotel · 45 nights measured4★$70
- The Sanctuary Resort Pattaya, BW Signature Collection · 44 nights measured5★$71
- Jomtien Palm Beach Hotel And Resort · 45 nights measured4★$72
- Nautical Inn · 43 nights measured3★$72
- Viewtalay6 by Pat 42 · 18 nights measured3★$76
- Siamese Hotel Pattaya, BW Signature Collection · 45 nights measured4★$84
- Mike Garden Resort Hotel · 45 nights measured4★$84
- The Zign Hotel · 45 nights measured5★$85
- The One Hotel Bay Breeze Pattaya · 45 nights measured3★$87
- LK Emerald Beach · 43 nights measured4★$88
- Golden Sea Pattaya Hotel · 45 nights measured4★$90
- Welcome Plaza Hotel · 45 nights measured3★$93
- Rita Resort and Residence · 17 nights measured4★$96
- Fifth Jomtien Pattaya · 40 nights measured5★$97
- Hill Fresco · 15 nights measured4★$98
- The Beverly Hotel Pattaya · 41 nights measured4★$100
- Brighton Grand Hotel Pattaya · 45 nights measured5★$105
- Welcome Jomtien Beach Hotel · 44 nights measured4★$106
- Cloudotel Walking Street · 44 nights measured4★$116
- D Varee Jomtien Beach · 44 nights measured4★$117
- Hard Rock Hotel Pattaya · 43 nights measured4★$120
- Sirin Exclusive Hotel & Residence · 44 nights measured4★$120
- Natural Park Resort · 11 nights measured4★$121
- The Zign Premium Villa · 45 nights measured5★$123
- Altera Hotel and Residence · 43 nights measured4★$123
- ibis Pattaya · 45 nights measured3★$129
- The Quba Boutique Hotel Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$132
- Royal Heritage Pavillion · 3 nights measured4★$134
- Welcome World Beachfront Resort · 44 nights measured4★$141
- Paradise Land Resort · 43 nights measured3★$141
- Grand Bella Hotel · 45 nights measured4★$146
- Heeton Concept Hotel Pattaya by Compass Hospitality · 45 nights measured4★$149
- One Patio Hotel Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$152
- Manhattan Pattaya Hotel · 45 nights measured4★$163
- Rabbit Resort Pattaya · 43 nights measured4★$174
- Cross Pattaya Pratamnak · 43 nights measured5★$181
- Royal Thai Pavilion Jomtien Boutique Resort · 1 night measured4★$197
- Mood Hotel Pattaya · 45 nights measured3★$198
- Akara Hotel Pattaya · 45 nights measured5★$200
- Bella Villa Prima · 45 nights measured3★$205
- Royal Cliff Beach Hotel Pattaya · 45 nights measured5★$209
- SureStay Plus by Best Western T Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$216
- S Lodge Pattaya (formally known as Sabai Lodge) · 45 nights measured3★$234
- The Monttra Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$236
- Terra Nara · 45 nights measured4★$237
- Royal Cliff Grand Hotel Pattaya · 45 nights measured5★$239
- Royal Cliff Beach Terrace Hotel Pattaya · 45 nights measured5★$244
- Amethyst Hotel Pattaya · 44 nights measured4★$245
- La Miniera Pool Villas Pattaya - Small Luxury Hotels of the World · 39 nights measured5★$251
- Pullman Pattaya Hotel G · 45 nights measured5★$252
- Melia Pattaya Hotel · 45 nights measured5★$261
- Somerset Pattaya · 45 nights measured4★$269
- Page 10, Hotel · 45 nights measured4★$274
- Woodlands Hotel & Resort · 45 nights measured4★$286
- Woodlands Suites Serviced Residences · 45 nights measured5★$294
- Amari Pattaya · 45 nights measured5★$326
- Hotel Baraquda Pattaya By Heeton · 45 nights measured5★$337
- Flipper House Hotel · 45 nights measured3★$360
- Grande Centre Point Space Pattaya · 45 nights measured5★$372
- Arbour Hotel And Residence Pattaya · 45 nights measured5★$435
- Veranda Residence Pattaya Pool Villa · 27 nights measured4★$529
- LK The Empress Pattaya · 41 nights measured4★$845
More tracked hotels — 5
Recent Pattaya deal records
- The Holiday Resort Pattaya$238 total7 nights from 23 Dec 202648% below · 31 comparable
- Natural Park Resort$46 total1 night from 23 Jan 202740% below · 32 nights
- Welcome Jomtien Beach Hotel$265 total7 nights from 27 Nov 202633% below · 44 nights
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How we work this out
Every hotel here is priced once a week for the same stay — one refundable night, two adults — on dates spread across the next twelve months. Holding the room and the party the same is what makes a change in the answer mean something; how far ahead each date sits is the one thing we vary on purpose, because that is the question this page answers — which month to go, not how early to book. Every figure is a one-night stay as quoted, never a longer total divided down. The longer version.